Friday, February 29, 2008

PIF Application

The blog has been somewhat dry, so I figure this is about time to have a bit of flashback. As you may or may not know, I was chosen in the Pay It Forward program. Some people have asked me in the past what I wrote in the application to "won" me the spot. Reading this again and thinking back really open my eyes. Obviously everything said here is 100% true, some more personal than others but I don't really mind showing it after almost a year have gone by. I'm pretty sure only a handful of people have read this since I wrote it. So here goes:

Hi,

First, I just want to say how fortunate CR has a member like you who is willing to give back what was first given to you. These opportunities that you are offering is rare and of course a starting player like myself would jump to the opportunity at first glance. I'm sure many many MANY others will also. It's going to be extremely difficult to stand out from the thousands of other members from CRs. All I can do is offer the facts and let you be the judge.

I have been keeping track of your 101k challenge for quite some time now. It's amazing how well you were doing since the beginning. And no doubt in my mind that you'll succeed in the rest of your challenge. Whether or not you choose me, I just want to say good luck for your challenge.

About myself, I don't know how much of my life story you might be interested with. I guess I'll give some general relevant information. I current reside in the Boston, MA area. I am 24 years old working on my BS in Computer Science. Prior to studying for this major, I was studying in a school for Computer Animation(3D type production: games; movies like Cars, Nemo, etc..). It was a great experience. I am Chinese, born in Hong Kong and moved to the US since I was age of 10. I feel I'm pretty knowledgeable about computer things, I was pretty into computer gaming for many many years. I competed with many of the best players on the games I played. I am very similar to all the LiquidPoker guys where they switched from gaming to poker. These days, I don't play any games at all and just focus into poker.

About my poker experience, I consider myself a baby. Though I did come a long way, it seems every time I learn something new, there are always something more fascinating about this game. Sometimes I feel like I know all the "in"s and "out"s but in reality, there are much to learn.

I started playing seriously only for a little over 6 months. I started as a total beginner jumping into Pokerstars and trying to dominate the 25nl using very poor BR management. My original goal with poker was to make it big. In some ways, I admit I was looking for an "easy" route(trust me, I think poker is far from "easy" now) to make some side money. I thought that since I am a pretty smart guy, I could make some easy money playing the game. Little did I know that it is much tougher than I ever imagined.

I first deposited a small amount of ~200 to try to work off the PS bonus. I did pretty poorly, I was still learning a lot of basics of the game so I naturally made a lot of mistakes. I had huge swings and I was definitely losing then. But somehow I survived for a while until I "tilted" BAD for the first time(and hopefully for the last time). I felt at the time that this game is unbeatable and this is a waste of time. So I dumped the last of my roll(~80) on the first hand on a high limit game. Of course I went busto. I probably stepped away from the game for a couple days. Then I realize that I actually already learned so much from the game since from the beginning, and I thought I could beat it. I needed patience and some endurance.

So I deposited another ~350 and never looked back. I had many swings since that deposit where I actually went down to less than 100 and rebuild from 10nl up. But I think it was necessary to learn the game. I started going to 2+2 and met some players grinding like I was. Those things helped my game a lot and at the time I read almost every poker book I could savage. From the beginning to even now, I eat and drink poker. I am always looking for new ideas and something to help my game. This is a gradual process, years down the line I'll look back and the player that I am now will be so inferior than the player I will become. So again, this opportunity you are offering, I will learn a lot.

My strongest point imo is always trying to improve and always open to new ideas. I am a very logical player. If math will help me with my game, I study math. If psychology will help me, I study psychology. Also, even though I made one huge tilt in my poker career(though the amount is little), I feel I am a really good at tilt management. My personality is very timid and humble, I don't get angry at all. I make logical decisions and try not to let emotions get in the way. I will always remember that time I tilted my whole roll, and it's still in my PT stats. It reminds me who I was, and the danger of tilt, it keeps me strong.

Currently, I am still grinding away at 50nl. I took a stab recently(a week ago) in 100nl where I really couldn't find my spot there. I did well at the beginning, consistently winning but then I just dropped. I probably made about 8BIs before I dropped 13 in a week. This is not due to tilt, I honestly don't know exactly what it was yet. I think I was playing in a style that was too exploitable, and I had some bad timing, cards, or whatever. So like I said, I'm grinding 50nl. 50nl is pretty easy for me, I practice good table selection, I pick my spots and fish. Variance is very limited. I am trying to achieve 40BIs in 100nl before taking a stab into it.

As far as my regular game stats. I can play really nit TAG to super LAG. It depends on the game environment and what they allow me to do. I would have to admit playing 25/22 ish stats is harder than playing just ABC TAG. I only play that loose when the table is extremely tight(I probably change tables anyways), and they let me get away with it. For my TAG game, I probably could play down to 10/10 if the table so loose and even on the button I will get 2 callers every time. My usual avg is ~19/17/3, that's what it is in PT. But I adjust to the tables.

As far as CR, I learned a lot from there. I joined it while I was grinding out 25nl. I try my best to post my ideas and what would be best in the low limits forum. I know I am not perfect, but a lot of the players are definitely still learning the fundamentals of the game. I try to help as much as I do. Honestly, it helps me think about those situations and it helps my own game by replying. I might not always be right, actually I'm wrong a lot but I feel some players can learn a lot from my experience. I love the CR community, it's so much more constructively than 2+2(90% trash replies). I am really looking forward to help the CR community as I become a much stronger player.

Anyways, I think I talked maybe a little too much. I could probably go on another 10 pages. I'm sure you have many many other applications to read. This amount is definitely a good snippet of myself. I don't know how much attention I will get, and I do wish I would be chosen. But I'm a pretty realistic person, as much as I think I am a good candidate, I am in reality just another apple in the barrel. If you need any further information or details, please feel free to ask/reply to this email address. I hope you will find the best candidate. Thanks for taking the time to read this. I appreciate it. If you want to look at my past(or current) poker progress, check out my blog (pretty private, I say anything in my mind there) at " http://sirnebsblog.blogspot.com/".

Frankie("SirNeb" in CR)

It's not over yet. At the time, I really really wanted the spot. I'm not afraid to admit certain strategies I used to get to my goal. No, I didn't lie about any of the contents. But I spend a considerable amounts of time trying to figure out if there is anything I could do to help my chances. I read Brian's blog, I watched his CR video many times. It's almost like having a crush on someone.. :) It's pretty embarrassing actually. But maybe 2 weeks after I submitted the above, I decided to write him another email. The timing of it was kind of planned. I knew that the submission process probably will slow down in the middle of the month. And my desire for the spot did not die down. For Taylor's protege program, Brian actually exercised a similar strategy according to his blog. He did not like what he first sent to Taylor so he wrote another one. So I thought Brian would think it's acceptable for someone to send in 2 submissions! I thought that maybe I could show how passionate I was and perhaps it will help my chances. Here's the second email:

I know I already wrote a lot in the last email but I really want to add something that you might possibly be looking for in your student. Also, it's mostly to satisfy myself so I don't regret that I gave my best effort on something that I value and perhaps a once in a lifetime type of opportunity.

I mainly want to add the goals in the game and what I like to get from this opportunity. I mentioned my goal was to make some side money and I believe I said "to make it big". This is true and I really want to expand on that because I feel it's important to this application.

My expectations starting from the beginning is very different than how I see things now. In the past, my arrogant self thought poker would be easy and I can outsmart everyone. It's naive and the path is difficult. Other than mastering the game, you have to master yourself. I learned so much about this game, such as the value in making the best decision ALWAYS. In a game of poker, you make one or two mistakes, you might possibly be down that session. In life, it's similar, you miss out in opportunity, you regret your decision. Poker in some ways is life and it has taught me a lot about life.

I am a pretty competitive person at heart. Ya, poker is good for the money but I have no doubt I'll make it to decent money with the game. But even if I do very good money, I am not going to be just satisfied with just the money, I want to be the best(or at least one of the best). I want to play the highest stake possible. might sound arrogant, but that's the goal. I know I am far from that, perhaps one day some people might think I am the best player ever, I know I probably will never consider myself being the best. This "long term" goal of mine will probably never be achieved, but makeItit pushes me to always look for new edges and improve my game in any way possible. I don't want to be a lazy player.

On the other hand, I want to be clear that I have very little passion for poker to become my long term profession. Due to reasons such as my culture, religion, ethics, or perhaps just my own selfishness, I want more in life. Achieving goals in poker is just part of the journey. I think it's similar to how Taylor thinks about the game, I don't want to "put all my eggs in one basket". I want poker to help me get to where I eventually want to be and I want to do the best that I can with anything that I try in. I don't want to depend on one thing if it doesn't work out, but I really want to do well in this "investment". Yes, I only invested seriously for a little more than 6 months, but I don't want my initial investment to be wasted. And realistically at my current stage, my goal is to eventually rid a lot of financial problems in the future. Maybe this is a lot to grasp and understand, but that's how I feel deep down.

Honestly, I really want to challenge myself to succeed in something I deeply put my mind into. I want to cease any opportunity given at any given time. This is why I joined CR, this is why I am applying for this. I want to prove to myself that I can do "it", whatever "it" may be. I can achieve anything I put my mind into and that I won't fail.

I possibly sound a little over serious there. But that's just how I feel about things that I care about. I put my heart and soul into things I want. I might not get what I want all the time, but I will damn well try my best to get it. I just want to show how committed I am to this, and how much I want this opportunity. I feel a little embarrassed saying all the things I did either in this email or the last one, because I really needed to swallow my pride and practically "beg" for this opportunity. But as I said, I'm not going to let this pass by without a fight.

Anyways, thanks for taking the time to read this. Whether I am chosen or not, I know I made my best effort to show you the person that I am. Maybe you are not looking for my type, that is fine. I learned not to be result oriented from this game. I will continue this road and cease other opportunities. Again, thanks for everything. I sincerely, truly hope you will find the best two candidates.

Frankie ("SirNeb")

I feel a little dirty but definitely wasn't "cheating" by any means. And every word said is how I felt at the time. One thing I hate is lying, that is something I won't do to get to my goal. I mean you still have to play by the rules of the game. Anyways, I thought maybe someone would find this blog post interesting/informative and maybe find out a little bit about me(some stuff is pretty personal but nothing too private).

Saturday, February 16, 2008

New Mentality

For some reason, I have trouble with a certain thought process. Playing this game of 100bb+ BIs, we tend to keep thinking about winning the big stash opponents are currently holding. We want his stack! That's what poker is all about right? But truthfully, sustaining a long term winrate is so far from winning those big stacks. This is because 1.) big hands don't come that often. 2.) cooler hands don't count in a long run.

What is the goal of this game? To win money, of course. Does it matter if it's 1bb or half a bb or 100bb? I mean winning that extra 1bb now nets you 1bb more than you had a second ago. Ya, it would be nice to get that huge stack villain is holding but can anyone really guarantee you will take it? What if you run really really bad and villain just happens to cooler you for every single pot, even though apparently he's the worst player that walks the face of the earth. There is no guarantee, remember that. But that's not my point.

I find myself struggling to be satisfied with the very small pots, even in huge quantities. There are many weak tight players out there that will play fit or fold unfailingly. You will rarely find them get their money in with the worse of it. What can you do against those players? You just need to grind him down, micro pot after micro pot. You are hugely profitable against him, but you will not get his stack anytime soon. But I can guarantee that table will be very "profitable" and I'll sustain a very high winrate. It's almost like someone shipping you 4bb like every 20 hands or so. I wish money would come in that easily, and the problem is that it really does come that easily sometimes but I have trouble mentally following through these types of grinds. As sick as I would hate to admit, I prefer winning stacks and then losing stacks to total net me +4bb than to win 4bb constantly. I guess it's more "exciting" and I'm more used to that type of poker.

But, it's not the best type of poker. As you keep moving up, stack vs stack happens basically more in a cooler basis. Your edge becomes smaller and smaller. If someone was to throw you 1bb every so often, you need to take it and be happy. This is the mentality I need to succeed.

The mentality to see profitability and cease it.

Friday, February 1, 2008

Fun Value Bet

This is a fun value bet that I made against a huge fish. He's been killing everyone, there were seriously 4 other regulars on the table including me trying to catch him. Of course I got the best position so I can't realistically leave this table. It was pretty frustrating that the cards wouldn't allow me to stack him. He was so bad that if I flop TP, I'm value betting 3 streets. I think the dynamics is kind of interesting and my thought process here.



I'm playing my regular game, I was running probably a little loose on this table like 27/23ish stats. My history with villain is a long one but he's been getting the best of me in many many small pots. I was trying too hard to isolate him and outplay him postflop but it did not work very well due the following tendencies:

-limps a lot, stats of 60/17 or something
-will rarely ever fold to a cbet
-will rarely ever fold with really bad hands to double barrels.
-complete calling station(isn't it obvious?)
-minraises with huge hands and TP
-limp min3bet/3bet with 99+ against my isolation
-willing to make huge bluffs if he doesn't believe you
-he will value bet his good hands on one street but will check the next(but still won't be folding very much).

So basically, for hours, I was getting no hands I could value bet him to death. It was quite frustrating because if you hit, it's like printing money. Anyways, this hand came up with hours of reads on him.



PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $4 BB (5 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from http://www.flopturnriver.comFlopTurnRiver.com (Format: Plain Text)

MP ($2280.55)
Hero ($400)
SB ($394)
BB ($505.10)
UTG ($1292.15)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 7d, 9d.
1 fold, MP calls $4, Hero raises to $20, 2 folds, MP calls $16.

Villian limps a lot, this is a decent hand to isolate him in position. Of course I've been doing this for hours and if I hit middle pair I would value bet him to death. He's that much of a calling station but he's been running really hot. Against guys like him, you actually want to be isolating him with big cards more than these SC type hands.


Flop: ($46) As, 5h, 3s (2 players)
MP checks, Hero bets $36, MP calls $36.

I knew that my cbet was going to get called a lot but when I made the cbet I knew I was getting called by K high, any gutshot, any pair, almost anything even hands like QT.


Turn: ($118) Ah (2 players)
MP checks, Hero bets $88, MP calls $88.

This is typically not the best card to double barrel, because it's not believable. But I figure if I fire here, I'll fold out a lot of complete trash. Yet of course he calls, not a surprise. Thinking back on it, I probably should give up and wait for another chance.


River: ($294) 7s (2 players)
MP checks, Hero bets $256 (All-In), MP calls $256.

The 7 hits which gives me the highest non-trips pair on the board. Now I'm thinking what hands does he hold? I decided that he wouldn't have a hand like Ax because he would surely minraise or do something weird somewhere. And sure, he could have a hand like 88 but I've seen him limp/3bet pf with 99+ so it's unlike he has at least 99+. This is because I've been isolating him and he almost always does those weird lines with mid to big PPs. I decided that he might look me up really really light because he would never think I'm value betting a 7 here. I expect to get called by 5x, 3x, Kx, 66, 44, 22, 67, 75 very often. Occasionally he'll show me 88+ or some slowplayed Ax. I think shoving is going to be profitable good amounts of the time.


Final Pot: $806

Results below:
MP mucked [5d 4d].
Hero has 7d 9d (two pair, aces and sevens).
Outcome: Hero wins $806.


Snap called. Ship it! >:) I was exhausted after stacking him, if I still had it in me, I would stay and try to stack him for a 200bb stack. I know I'm going to regret it after I feel more energized later.